Sunday, September 23, 2007

Applebee "Curriculum as Conversation"

I love Applebee’s reclaiming of the notion of tradition as being knowledge-in-action and as both ancient and living. Too bad that what we’ve come to associate with “traditional” education (even Dewey refers to the either/or mentality as controlling “traditional education” in ch. 1, "Experience in Education") is so knowledge-out-of-context intensive. In fact, when I think about it, the latter isn’t really traditional at all but, in terms of human history, a relatively modern twist. The notion of curriculum as conversation makes me think of the discussions concerning teaching our kids to think like a mathematician/scientist/historian/writer. It fits right in – when we treat students like they are novices in our discipline – versus telling them about the discipline – it shapes how we think about conveying that information. We treat them like baby writers/historians etc – and give them real tools to begin their work – to DO science, or to DO history. It seems to me that is where the doing comes in. Applebee says, “knowledge of a tradition involves both knowing and doing” (30). In an argument lain out so convincingly as Applebee does, this might seem to be a no-brainer, but it’s deceptively simple. When other than business-as-usual ways of schooling are suggested critics say that all this “learning by doing” just leads to chaos-- “how do schools avoid allowing them to wallow in their own ignorance?” (36)…which is the point….they don’t…not with a curriculum… or a plan that proposes to induct the novice into the society of writers/historians/scientists.

4 comments:

sara said...

I love that last quote against knowledge in action. It seems so obvious to me that teachers will provide direction to their students. Students are not animals that we're letting loose and then saying "GO!"
I take it for granted that everybody remembers how mundane school can be when all we do is listen and recite.

amy said...

I like your point about how young our tradition of "school education" is. It's a reminder of how firmly we hold onto ideas that we don't fully even think about (our tacit beliefs, I guess) or put into a larger context.

I also liked your point about apprenticeship vs. just telling. People used to be apprentices (cobblers, masons, etc.). So, again, it's like this idea was lost in the discourse of school, which is just so separate from real life.

audranoodles said...

Nice connection with Dewey. He addresses the issue you raise of the need for a curriculum("A single course of studies for all progressive schools is out of the question; it would mean adandoning the fundamental principle of connection with life-experiences" (Experience and Education, p. 78). Like Applebee's conversation curriculum, the curriculum plan surrounds knowing and doing...

audranoodles said...

I agree with you that Applebee does a nice job of "reclaiming" the past as both "ancient and living." And I love how you phrase that..
Another Dewey idea brought forward! "[learning] can expand into the future only as it is also enlarged to take in the past" (Experience and Education, p. 77)